Residents' parking permit scheme launch

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Friday, March 12, 2010
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RESIDENTS will have priority parking outside their homes from Monday, when new restrictions come into force in a North Lincolnshire town.

The scheme, which is a first for the region, is being introduced by North Lincolnshire Council on six Brigg streets after a long battle by residents proved successful.

Homeowners with no off-street parking on Grammar School Road South, Wrawby Street, Queen Street, Garden Street, Cross Street and the northern side of Bigby Street have been issued with permits.

This entitles them to park their cars on the roads around their homes, easing long-standing parking problems and ensuring they are not penalised under the council's new civil parking enforcement powers.

Anybody without a permit will only be entitled to park on any of the affected streets for a maximum of one hour.

The Queen Street Action Group (QUAG) campaigned for the permits and its chairman, Ian Chambers, said he was pleased with the new scheme.

Mr Chambers, of Wrawby Street, said: "We are really happy that the council has listened and that the permits are now in place.

"I have spoken to a few residents and they are really happy that they will be able to park safely in the street.

"This is the solution we were all after so it feels very much like the battle has been won."

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    by Ian Chambers, Brigg

    Monday, March 15 2010, 11:34PM

    “DVT-Thankyou for your comments but I am afraid that you are very much mistaken.

    1. When you say that the scheme deprives other motorists from parking you need to understand the situation along Queen Street and Wrawby Street. Residents take up less than a quarter of available parking spaces. As you even admit yourself the current situation has been flouted by motorists who park there all day. The fact NLC are now actively enforcing the one hour waiting will result in a greater turn-over of vehicles which will INCREASE local business.

    2. There has been no car up on ramps during the last couple of weeks. There was a car on ramps for a few days while an exhaust was being repaired about six months ago but this was in a derestricted zone set aside for residents nearly a decade ago.

    3. Correct, the upkeep of the road does not come from the permit admin fee, it comes from the road tax I pay along with every other resident who has applied for a permit. I am in constant contact with NLC as chairman of QUAG and I can say that the council will not suddenly hike prices up. If similar schemes are introduced across North Lincs then the cost may even come down.

    4. Nobody has exclusive right to park in the space directly outside their property and nobody has ever asked for an individual parking space for this purpose. I am not sure what kind of world you live in where you think every car owner in the country can live in a property with off street parking. It is not a case of just saying that people should move, why should they when a solution is on their doorstep (literally)?

    5. There will NEVER be 'resident only' parking areas in this area of Brigg and we have never expected there to be. And there will not be massive price hikes as you have suggested. Schemes like this exist all over the country and there are specific guidleines (viewable on our website) that the council has to follow.

    6. There is NO barriered car park in Brigg. The main car park on Old Courts Road is open all the time but does not have 24hr CCTV. And can you reasonably expect some of the elderly and disabled residents that I represent to park hundreds of yards away at the dead of night?

    I cannot understand why you are so against this scheme. It has never and will never cost you a penny. Some of the residents involved have no desire to move from Brigg and why should they?”

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    by DVT, Brigg

    Monday, March 15 2010, 10:39PM

    “Mabel, In reply to your points raised.

    1. The scheme DOES not deprive other motorists from parking.

    Yes it does! This means that residents can park there all day every day so the space cannot be used by anyone else. Local shops and businesses will lose out.

    2. The scheme allows residents to park near their home without being constantly fined for doing so.

    Parking restrictions in Queen Street have been flouted for years. There has even been a car up on ramps there in the past for a couple of weeks whilst it was being repaired.

    This action seems to coincide with the introduction of council parking revenue raisers, another 'self financing' initiative.

    3. The scheme is self-financing - the cost coming from the admin fee that the residents pay.

    The upkeep of the road does NOT come out of this admin fee! Once introduced, the council will soon be milking residents for higher fees.

    4. Some of the residents have lived in the area long before parking restriction were implemented around them.

    Yes, but why does this mean that anyone has the right to the road which is not their property?

    5. Other authorities have employed this type of scheme for years .......have you ever left Brigg to look what's happening in other towns around the country.

    Yes I have. This is the thin end of the wedge. Next step is for the council to deem the scheme (suggested by the residents themselves ¿ suckers!) a roaring success. They introduce 'residents only' areas, increase the admin fee to £240 and leave a token two parking spaces for everyone else. Then extend the scheme to nearby streets, so residents in Albert street etc will have to pay to park in the street.

    6. I suggest that you comment that such residents should move out and buy a property with car parking spaces particularly offensive. Not everyone has that opportunity...and why should they if they like living in their present house and a simple solution, like this, is all that is needed.

    I would not wish to offend and don¿t throw insults around as some kind of defence against other¿s views. I have been in this situation myself and the solution was to rent a garage some distance away from my home.

    There is a HUGE barriered car park less than 100 yards from Queen Street, probably even has CCTV. Perhaps the council would allow residents town centre car parking in there for 11p per day?”

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    by G.Etreal, Down South

    Monday, March 15 2010, 8:50AM

    “Some homeowners seem to think they have a right to park on a section of the public road, just because that bit is outside their front door.
    Roads are provided for traffic.
    I believe if you haven't got off- road parking you shouldn't be allowed to own a car at all.
    Why should the roads be provided and maintained (at huge cost to all tax payers) just so people too poor (or too tight) to buy houses with driveways can park their bangers on it.
    By reserving these spaces for home owners, the town is being deprived of car parking facilities for shoppers / workers who are REALLY contributing financially to the prosperity of the town.”

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    by Scunny, Scunthorpe

    Sunday, March 14 2010, 2:59PM

    “Mabel, My comment was about your last post which resorted to the cheap tactic of hurling abuse rather than addressing the issue. The logic, which seems to escape you, is very simple. If people want to own a car they should provide or obtain somewhere to stable it off road. Roads are provided at public expense to move traffic, not for individuals to store their belongings on to the inconvenience of legitimate road users.”

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    by Mabel, Logically Sound

    Sunday, March 14 2010, 1:20PM

    “Scunny, Scunthorpe

    The logic is with me. Most people live in terraced housing without off-street parking, so are you saying that over 50 percent of car owners have been illogical and have bought/live in dwellings that don't have parking facilities...or are you suggesting that they should sell the cars?

    Please explain why your argument is more logical and contains comparatively more common sense than mine.”

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    by anon, scunthorpesky

    Sunday, March 14 2010, 9:15AM

    “its company vans an trucks that should be in company compounds NLH park their trucks outside of employees houses, do they not have a company van park ,also camper vans parked on roads”

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    by Scunny, Scunthorpe

    Saturday, March 13 2010, 9:36PM

    “Oh well done, Mabel. When you can't defeat the logic insult the person.”

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    by Mabel, Still in the Real World

    Saturday, March 13 2010, 9:17PM

    “Another comment from a parochial dinosaur....or from a a hooray henry who has too much money than sense and believes that everyone lives in palaces!!”

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    by Scunny, Scunthorpe

    Saturday, March 13 2010, 5:29PM

    “Mabel, No - DVT is quite right. If people want to own a car they should have somewhere to put it off the highway. There are too many people using the roads to stable their vehicles. They should pay for it or get a house with a drive. Roads are for traffic, not parking.”

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    by Mabel, Living in the Present

    Saturday, March 13 2010, 11:12AM

    “Disillusioned Newcomer.

    Well said......one of the biggest problems I've observed is that there are too many dinosaurs about North Lincs.”

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