Taxpayers must pick up £475k tab over demolition of Scunthorpe pub

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Saturday, March 02, 2013
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Scunthorpe Telegraph

TAXPAYERS face a bill of £475,000 to demolish a pub in Scunthorpe town centre.

The news follows the earlier part-demolition of The Foundry Arms, which North Lincolnshire Council says it was forced to carry out when it flattened the adjoining Carlton Street car park.

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    The Foundry Arms in Scunthorpe town centre

  2. damage:  The Foundry Arms

    The Foundry Arms

  3. location:  The Foundry Arms during the demolition of the Carlton Street car park in Scunthorpe in December 2011

    The Foundry Arms during the demolition of the Carlton Street car park in Scunthorpe in December 2011

  4. facing demolition:  Damage to The Foundry Arms

    Damage to The Foundry Arms

Licensees Chris and Andrew Mappouras had reopened the pub, previously known as The New Venue, in July 2011 after investing £250,000.

However, just weeks later they were told by the council to close amid fears the car park might collapse. The car park has since been demolished at a cost of £787,000.

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Now the pub will be flattened – bringing to an end a legal wrangle that has rumbled on since the demolition work began.

North Lincolnshire Council has agreed in principle to pay £425,000 to take on sole ownership of the site, with a further bill to the taxpayer of £50,000 to demolish the remainder of the pub.

The £425,000 will be handed to Scanlans Consultant Surveyors LLP, based in Leeds, which has acted as agents for those who had been the registered owners of the site.

It is understood some of this money will then be passed on to Chris and Andrew Mappouras.

The overall bill will be funded by council contingency funds.

Scanlans confirmed to the Telegraph that the basis for a conditional agreement had been signed.

A confidential report prepared by North Lincolnshire Council and seen by the Telegraph says "it unfortunately proved impossible to demolish the multi-storey car park without causing significant collateral damage to the Foundry Arms.

"As a result, it became necessary to effect the demolition of a substantial part of the Foundry Arms building."

The council says this was due to the "restricted method of demolition allowed by the Health and Safety Executive".

A spokesman for North Lincolnshire Council said: "North Lincolnshire Council was forced to demolish the car park following safety concerns and this decision has also compromised a number of neighbouring buildings.

"The multi-storey car park was found to have serious structural faults and be in danger of collapse and no other decision other than immediate demolition was possible to protect public safety.

"Protection of an electrical substation added to the critical nature of the challenge and the need to secure a prompt resolution to ensure continued supply to homes and businesses.

"The council is committed to the regeneration of the Market Square and Church Square areas of Scunthorpe and has allocated funding to create local jobs and provide new homes and improve and create a town centre that residents can be proud of."

The report states that the cost of rebuilding the pub would have left the authority facing a bill in the region of £529,000.

The report goes on to say that legal advice "indicates the council is liable for making good the damage caused to a standard equivalent to that immediately prior to demolition.

"This requires the rebuilding of The Foundry Arms and replacement of all lost equipment.

"This is not covered by the council's insurance arrangements."

The council report concedes the £475,000 deal is "the best option".

The report states: "It resolves all current and any potential outstanding liabilities that the council has in relation to The Foundry Arms at a significantly lower cost than fulfilling our obligation to rebuild the facility."

The authority also hopes demolishing the site will help restore the area.

The report adds: "It provides the opportunity of the return of a key town centre site", which it says will contribute "to our future ambitions for regeneration of the area."

But the report also reveals the complex ownership arrangements of the site.

The report, written prior to the agreement, states: "The tenancy of the Foundry Arms is complex. A ground lease is in place between the council and third party tenants.

"This originally dates from 1977 and expires in 2072.

"This currently yields an annual income of £4,500 to the council, although this is temporarily suspended at present."

The Mappouras family have so far declined to comment.

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    by englander61

    Monday, March 04 2013, 1:21PM

    “Why did council not claim of builders or designers of the car park they must have had insurance to build in first place , to cover for this , and demolition company also .”

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    by eggy123456

    Sunday, March 03 2013, 9:24AM

    “did the demolishing contractor have no insurance against accidental damage to adjoining property?”

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    by filbert

    Saturday, March 02 2013, 9:24PM

    “Why couldnt the council have left the toilets standing? As for the money, by my reckoning , if the councilors pay for thier own drinks in the next year that should about cover the bill for the work to be done.”

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    by TFiLive

    Saturday, March 02 2013, 6:48PM

    “Someone clearly thought they'd get away with making that mess and the claimants would give up. It wouldn't have been the hardest task to remove the car park and make good the venue - and a damn sight cheaper”

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    by BillClunge

    Saturday, March 02 2013, 3:29PM

    “Looks like the Mappouras family has made a tidy profit again. Perhaps they can tidy up the Buccaneer if they still own it, it's an eyesore.”

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    by Stixxx

    Saturday, March 02 2013, 12:38PM

    “@ tuckeratlarge
    Half of that sum will be for OTT Health & Safety.
    20% of the remainder will be paid to Paddy & Mick as subcontractors to do the job.
    :o)”

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    by tuckeratlarge

    Saturday, March 02 2013, 12:19PM

    “How the hell does it cost £787,000 to demolish the car park? It's a few wrecking balls and skips. What did the do, take it down with gold chisels? Somebody is extracting the urine.”

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    by buffering

    Saturday, March 02 2013, 9:46AM

    “Mondo51

    Seeing as the council is funded 100% by the tax payer, getting the council to pay without it costing the tax payer any money is impossible. However, what it does highlight is continued imcompetance and the continued frivilous use of the tax payers money by NLC.

    There are many things that this money could have been better used for, but alas, it's now being used to pay fpr the correction of theor earlier mistakes.

    What a wastes of OUR money.”

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    by mondo51

    Saturday, March 02 2013, 6:46AM

    “This council did the damage to the pub and we the tax payers have to pay why??? the council did the damage it them pay the land lord bought the place council knock car park down and damage the pub so council or dem company pay not the TAX PAYER”

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